Truck paper

[Dorsey]

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2477889

[h2oskibumz]

That's 30 minutes North of me. If someone needs a surrogate to go look at it first (before making the trip themselves for a final look) I could probably be persuaded....

[ccoop769]

Thats a cool trailer. Its gonna need a lift on it though as basically you would be going back to a wedge.

[Dorsey]

Thats a cool trailer. Its gonna need a lift on it though as basically you would be going back to a wedge.



I was just looking. Seen a good deal and figered some one might be interested. I'm not in a good spot to be buying crap right now. Actually as I was writing this the insurance adjuster called and told me this isn't going to be a fast process and if I need it fixed fast call my insurance.

[h2oskibumz]

Dorsey,

In my experience you almost always come out better by going to your insurance first. You will generally get things fixed faster and better.

Let your insurance company go do battle with the other guys insurance... You'll probably like your insurance company a little less at the end of the process, but in the end, time is of the essence...

[Dorsey]

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2450148

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2484831

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2458791

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2393911

[ccoop769]

That first 1 is sold. Told a friend about it about a 2 weeks ago and he called and said somebody was coming next morning to buy it.

[Dorsey]

Doesnt suprise me. Helleva deal on it.

[haulin rv]

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2476576

[twoduners11]

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2476576

i love the look of that thing. just screams "hot rod"

[haulin rv]

How about this one....

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2339416

[Tosch88]

She's got plenty of motor & tranny for a single axle. I'll swap him even up LOL!

[cosgo]

WTF???? 550 horse and 18 speeds in a single axle!!! whoa...

[LBZ]

How about this one....

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2339416

It has been on there for awhile, unless they just relisted it? Was thinking there used to be a price posted with the ad. Acert motor, but still before they put the DPF's on so you can work with it.:D

[haulin rv]

Looks like a pretty neat truck.

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2486321&Interest=add

http://www.truckpaper.com/images/Truck/fullsize/86488824.jpg

[haulin rv]

This looks cool too..

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2480295

http://www.truckpaper.com/images/Truck/fullsize/86685418.jpg

[cosgo]

I was kinda diggin on that yellow one till i saw the price!!!

[Tosch88]

Yep, they're proud of that yellow paint and the nice rattle can job on the frame to cover the rust.

[haulin rv]

Seems priced right...http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2506726

And

This one looks familiar.

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2515843

http://www.truckpaper.com/images/Truck/fullsize/83491477.jpg

[Tosch88]

Them Internationals are nice trucks. That's a good price for sure....hmmm.

[cosgo]

UH OH... does that mean thats Dorseys throwin in the towel??

[Dorsey]

Hahaha............not yet.:)

Geez, I just posted that up Friday Haulin. I'm going to start calling you CcoopJR!

If I have to hold on To the Aeromax that's fine with me. What I really want to do is get rid of the 450. My problem is finding someone stupid enough with enough money.

[smr500]

An old OVERNITE truck. Looks decent, called and the guy said the engine has a Cummins Reconditioned sticker on it . Truck supposedly 600,000 original miles

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2645985

[pballer]

lol, i was looking at that truck as well.

[h2oskibumz]

Watch those "reconditioned' stickers. They may be on the fuel pump... not actually the motor. I've seen a couple like that.

[smr500]

Good point, I didn't ask where it was on the engine. They said the engine was blue and not red? I don't know if the M11's all came one color or not, or if Cummins painted them a different color when reman'd. Would these engine be hard to find someone out on the road who knows how to work on them? I'm sure the fuel mileage is decent.

[haulin rv]

You need the truck and engine serial #. Cummins can give some history and so should International.

[Dorsey]

Kaufman 5/6 car.

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2650637

[LBZ]

Always been curious how they load those trailers in the winter? Noted on here that I had to winch on a operable 2wd truck over in OH a couple weeks ago, but those things look like a tough deal in anything less than sunny & 80.

[Dorsey]

It's mesh so the snow doesn't stick to it. I don't really like how the trailer is designed but it would get the job done.

[smr500]

It looks like the truck has a wet line, so I assume it is pto driven and not self contained. Good deal, though.

[smr500]

I like this, totally rebuilt. I called them and they said it could go for 15k. Wish it was closer so I could get it home easier (no truck yet). They really have the 5th wheel set back on the truck in the pics
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2674931

[h2oskibumz]

That's been on my watch list for a month or more... Maybe you should buy it and I'll go get it for you in exchange for using it until you get a truck... LOL!

[smr500]

There ya go!

[h2oskibumz]

Actually, my truck has air brakes, but is not equipped for a trailer w/ air... For me to pull one of these Sun Country trailers, there would have to be some changes made...

[smr500]

Too many miles for M-11? Rear tag axle, so easy s/a conversion.
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2713229&

[haulin rv]

How's the M11 on fuel vs the Detroit?


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[bayou hotshot]

The m11 gets good milage my buddy has that same truck he said it gets 7.8-8.8 but its a flat land truck

[haulin rv]

I'm just wondering if it will do as good as a Detroit as far as fuel. Since we are rapidly heading toward $4 gal.


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[smr500]

I would think it would be at least as good because of it's smaller displacement. Idk though, never owned one. I've research it in the past (internet) and it seems most were pulling a lot more weight than 4/5 car haulers and were tandem trucks, so not a good comparison. I was seriously considering that old Overnite truck a month or so ago that I posted here, and that had one. It sold before I could get down there to look at it.

[pmmjarrett]

M11 is on par with the Detriot and C12 Cat with fuel economy. My buddy has an M11 in his FL112 haul and tow and averages 10 - 11 mpg. When we ran together with identicle loads my FLC112 with the C12 CAT and his truck was always within a few gallons of mine when we stopped to fuel.

M11 is what JB hunt used to run in their trucks.

Nice specs on that Columbia, It's one I'd consider.

Aerodynamic truck, M11, 10 speed, LP 22.5 rubber, mid roof, aluminum wheels, tag axle..... That truck was speced for fuel economy, light weight. Looks like it was speced for flatbed, tank or grain hopper.

$600k is fine. Any of these engines is capable of over 1 million when taken care of.

[smr500]

Would removing the tag axle and cutting the frame improve mileage enough to be worth it? It would help on tolls, maintenance, and maneuverability.

[haulin rv]

Anytime you can remove weight it's a good thing. And getting rid of rolling resistance is even better. Bet that would be worth .5-1.0 mpg.


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[pmmjarrett]

Would removing the tag axle and cutting the frame improve mileage enough to be worth it? It would help on tolls, maintenance, and maneuverability.

The small weight saving won't save much if anything in fuel milage on these big trucks. Rolling resistance will afect them.

Wheelbase is measured to the center of the tandems.

If you torch off the tag you are shortening the wheelbase about 25" so manuverability will be better. Handeling on single axles is worse than tandems.

If you unbolt the tag and move the drive back, you are lengthening the wheelbase about 25". If you go this route you can convert it back to a tandem if you move up to a larger trailer like a 6 or 7 car. The major expense here is the new section of driveshaft which will run you about $1200. Measurement for this shaft is easy, it's the exact length of the distance between the centers of each axle as it sits now.

Another option is to just take off the inside duals and single it out. Doesn't cost anything but whatever you pay someone to remove the tires if you can't do it yourself and you won't have to drill new holes to bolt the fifth wheel back on. If in the future you need a higher weight capacity just bolt the tires back on as needed. There isn't much in the way of maintenance on a tag axle. Keep the hubs full of oil and grease the slack adjusters.

[smr500]

Thanks

[Brisco]

Is this guy HIGH or what???? http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2638919&

[bayou hotshot]

Is this guy HIGH or what???? http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2638919&

Ya find his trailer he wants that for his trailer also i think $65k if you buy both

[Buster]

$45k with 225,000 miles!?!?!?!?!

[ETS]

Is this guy HIGH or what???? http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2638919&

:eek: I didn't think it was possible to get that "high"

[Brisco]

:eek: I didn't think it was possible to get that "high"

LOL....maybe I should've said STONED......right.:)

[smr500]

The above Freightliner is sold, bummer, I was really interested in that one.
Any opinions on this little volvo? It doesn't have a volvo engine so that's a plus. Salesman said he would let it go for 11k. Hood was repainted due to chips (so he says) doesn't match but has not been wrecked.
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2667391&

[Tosch88]

I heard these are real comfortable to drive. I sat in a couple when looking at trucks, they seemed real nice but the ones I saw had the volvo motors and finding service centers are not that easy. I like the drive train for sure! Not sure why you'd repaint the hood a different color but that don't matter. Looks clean. I remember Slim saying something about Volvo's having wiring issues but it could have been a different year or model.

[smr500]

Thanks, I'm kinda in a hurry to find something so may be a lot of posts here lol. The Sun Country trailer in Arizona that I wanted is also sold, so starting over there.

[Slim]

The above Freightliner is sold, bummer, I was really interested in that one.
Any opinions on this little volvo? It doesn't have a volvo engine so that's a plus. Salesman said he would let it go for 11k. Hood was repainted due to chips (so he says) doesn't match but has not been wrecked.
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2667391&

If you really like it, take a mechanic friend with you to look at it and the two of you go over it with a fine tooth comb. If you find it is in great shape, offer him $8500. If he doesn't take, leave him your number and walk. Repeat this on every truck you find that you like. Soon, they will all be calling you. Always have your funds at hand when looking, they like a quick easy deal. If you pay your friend $50 cash for every truck you inspect, you are still way ahead of the game and he will always be happy to do it.

[smr500]

He sent me some pics. The "football" gasket is leaking. That is the only known issue according to him. I'm pretty mechanical, went to trade school for automotive in the early '90's but have zero experience with diesel's and big trucks. I don't know of anyone to take with me. A bit scary when you're blowin' a wad of cash.

[Slim]

He sent me some pics. The "football" gasket is leaking. That is the only known issue according to him. I'm pretty mechanical, went to trade school for automotive in the early '90's but have zero experience with diesel's and big trucks. I don't know of anyone to take with me. A bit scary when you're blowin' a wad of cash.

Do you have some one in mind that will service this truck after purchase? Perhaps a shop near home? You need to jack up and check front suspension and steering, check rear suspension and driveline. Check gear boxes for metal and fluid condition.
Have him check clutch and clutch brake operation, brake linings and 5th wheel bushings. You need to know what you'll be spending on the unit right after the deal but before the deal is final.

[Slim]

I heard these are real comfortable to drive. I sat in a couple when looking at trucks, they seemed real nice but the ones I saw had the volvo motors and finding service centers are not that easy. I like the drive train for sure! Not sure why you'd repaint the hood a different color but that don't matter. Looks clean. I remember Slim saying something about Volvo's having wiring issues but it could have been a different year or model.

The earlier models such as this one are pretty solid. The later models that have become more high tech and stylish seem to be much more "ginger bread" and often, problems start developing at midlife (500,000) and continue as the unit loosens up with more miles and age. I often hear drivers commenting that they love the truck, but just can't keep it out of the shop.

As for as the hood repaint, the body shops at dealers often work with the used truck department to "doll up" a unit with leftover paint to trim cost. I worked in a Pete dealer body shop and that's how they did it.

[Slim]

He sent me some pics. The "football" gasket is leaking. That is the only known issue according to him. I'm pretty mechanical, went to trade school for automotive in the early '90's but have zero experience with diesel's and big trucks. I don't know of anyone to take with me. A bit scary when you're blowin' a wad of cash.

I guess I would best compare purchasing a used truck without a knowledgeable mechanics assistance to entering a court of law in front of a judge without the representation of a good attorney. It's what you can't see and are not aware of that will get you.

How many times have you heard of the guy that went onto a lot and bought the truck, unaware of some pre-exsisting conditions that would have been obvious to an experienced mechanic? The first week out he looses the radiator and he's "down and spending" at the same time right out of the gate. Along with it, he has also discovered that the truck won't go into gear when stopped, but decides he must live with that for now or until it won't go any more.

This is why I believe you can't go wrong by paying a mechanic to represent you when purchasing a used truck.
I also think it's wise to build yourself a cushion into the sale price for what you and no one else can see that may bite you in your first month out. Be a stingy buyer and don't be the least bit embarrassed by it.

And always count on every used truck needing a new set of batteries!

[ETS]

Here ya go SMR...Should fit in the budget....right? ;)

Way over-priced, but beautifull!!!

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2565111&

[Dorsey]

OMG!!!!!!! I love that truck! I just had go go change my pants I got sooooooo excited.

[Brisco]

Here ya go SMR...Should fit in the budget....right? ;)

Way over-priced, but beautifull!!!

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2565111&

That is a nice assss freeegin truck. But, it'll take that one true collector who has the $65K to buy it. My bet, he's going to sit on it for quite a while.

[smr500]

Man, I wish....saaweet.

[pballer]

hey slim, what causes a truck to not go into gear when stopped?

[haulin rv]

Usually a clutch that does not fully disengage. Mine currently has a throw out bearing that causes that.

[cosgo]

a lazy driver...

[Buster]

Clutch brake

[pmmjarrett]

hey slim, what causes a truck to not go into gear when stopped?

If yer talking about the Century and it's just grinding trying to put it into gear when stopped. Prolly the clutch brake is burnt up or the clutch is out of adjustment.

The big truck manual trannies have a clutch brake. When driving and shifting gears don't push the pedal all the way to the floor, this will burn up the clutch brake. In order to engage the clutch brake you mash the pedal to the floor to slip it into gear when stopped. If your clutch is properly adjusted and it's doing this the clutch brake is likely burnt out...... Or the mechanic has been severly overgreasing the throwout bearing.

It's not very hard or expensive to replace, biggest headache is cutting the old one out. Installing the new one is easy.

There are 2 measurements when doing a clutch adjustment. Inside the housing, the distance between the throwout bearing and the clutch brake with the clutch released should be 1/2", once the clutch is adjusted to 1/2" here, then set the free pedal by adjusting the clutch linkage. On older trucks and Pete's there should be about 2" at the pedal. On most newer trucks they are measuring the distance between the throwout bearing and the clutch fork which should be about 1/8" This often gives about 4" of free pedal in these newer trucks.

And once you run out of adjustment in the clutch, it's time for a new one.

[bayou hotshot]

Or the mechanic has been severly overgreasing the throwout bearing.

Wish i could find someone to even grease mine you have to take the cover off mine and now lube shop will do it

[pmmjarrett]

Wish i could find someone to even grease mine you have to take the cover off mine and now lube shop will do it

WOW, you still have the inspection plate.

Get a hose for the grease fitting and drop it through the hole in the inspection plate.

[Slim]

WOW, you still have the inspection plate.

Get a hose for the grease fitting and drop it through the hole in the inspection plate.

I also like those hoses installed on the cross shaft bushings. The grease fittings are often overlooked and go ungreased. With the hoses hanging there, they stick out like a sore dick and the lube rummy won't miss them.

[Slim]

hey slim, what causes a truck to not go into gear when stopped?

All of the above. I might add that if a driver continually pushes the clutch pedal hard into the clutch brake while the truck is still in motion, the clutch brake will actually attempt to slow or stop the truck. Of course, it wasn't intended or made to do this and will sheer the drive tangs off the clutch brake disc.

While this is a totally different subject, it still has to do with incorrect action of the driver while the truck is still in motion. It's pretty common to see a driver (cowboy) pop the parking brake and be halfway out of the truck before it comes to a stop. This procedure was not meant to be and will tear the hell out of your brake components at the wheel. Pull the button only when stopped dead.

[pmmjarrett]

I also like those hoses installed on the cross shaft bushings. The grease fittings are often overlooked and go ungreased. With the hoses hanging there, they stick out like a sore dick and the lube rummy won't miss them.

Yep, exactly right, forgot about putting hoses there, we did that when I ran a 10 bay shop servicing 50+ dumptrucks daily.

For those not familiar with these components, he's talking about the clutch fork cross shaft bushings, one on each side of the transmission bellhousing.

Failure to grease these wears out the bushings and cross shafts and causes quite a bit of slop in the liknage and in severe cases eats through the bushings and into the bellhousing and becomes an major repair.

The lube monkey is usually, not always, but usually, the lowest and least experienced and needs all the help they can get. Know your truck and always check behind them.

[ETS]

I know a couple of you guys are looking for a 4-car....

Sure is pretty! I think when it's time to move up this might be the trailer.... :)

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2722415&

[bayou hotshot]

freightliner S/A $7,500 http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=1573342&

[pmmjarrett]

freightliner S/A $7,500 http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=1573342&

Very nice specs. I've actually looked at some of these blue FLD112 single axles out there when they had some at the Delta truck center, clean trucks. Fresno truck center and Delta truck center in CA have single axle sleeper and day cab trucks out there all the time. Be careful if looking for a single axle out west and plan to stretch the frame, many have aluminum frames and you can't stretch those.

[bayou hotshot]

Clean S/A freightliner
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2746639&

[Motownfire]

Looks bueno, what's the mileage on it ???

[haulin rv]

That is a good looking older rig. I'd like to see some interior shots.

[redline]

I like this one. Probably gets good mileage with the 5.9 but a dog up the hills http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2443095&

[Tosch88]

That one is about an hour from me at a dealership. Its been for sale for awhile. I would think the 5.9 is getting a little tired pushing a 13k truck around all the time. The 8.3 Cummins isn't much better in terms of performance. At least with the 7 speed spicer as the trans. A nicely setup road tractor will yield better mileage and have the power to pull the hills. I loved my Fl70 as far as the truck went and reliability but the performance sucked! I don't have to be the first guy to the top of hill but I don't like getting passed by a Yugo pulling a travel trailer either.

[LBZ]

Anybody have a quarter mil laying around?
http://www.autohaulershopper.com/index.php?option=com_classifieds&task=details&id=486&catid=10

[redline]

I just want a big sleeper so I can play ps3 on the road lol. I took my cdl test in a sa daycab for the airbrake endorsement but I only know enough to pass the pre trip test. What would be the ideal specs for best mpg. I would prefer a semi because they feel much much better and safer hauling 4 cars. But my 5.9 gets 10mpg and pulls the grapevine at 40mph so it's not too bad.

[Brisco]

Nice Nice little Peterbilt 325

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2848633&

Doesn't give any info on the truck it self.

Wonder what Paccar Cummins is under the hood. 200-280-300HP???

How many miles?? What's owed on truck, or lowest bank will accept???

Says it's here in Texas somewhere. If it's in the DFW area, I may go look at it here in a couple of days.

[ccoop769]

Anybody have a quarter mil laying around?
http://www.autohaulershopper.com/index.php?option=com_classifieds&task=details&id=486&catid=10

Interesting....

[haulin rv]

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=3124251&

This is a nice looking combo..
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2893735&
1067

[ETS]

That's been on there for a while. It sure is a beautiful set-up though! I kinda like that trailer!

[ETS]

Hmmmm. Looks a lot like an Infinity. Anyone know anything about this manufacturer?

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=3124251&

[Mrs Coop]

Resembles the Infinity but that tilt deck looks alot shorter. Plus with that center rail I don't see how you would even put a car on there. Looks like it would hit it going up and good luck tilting the car forward. Not to mention the price seems alittle on the high side for an 03. I maybe wrong since I don't know the brand.

[ETS]

Yeah, the center rail would have to be modified.

[cosgo]

It's been tweaked and worked on. Look underneath. Rusty c channel added

[ETS]

Yeah, I saw that Cosgo. I'm more curios to know if anyone has heard of this manufacturer or knows anything about them. This one is definitely overpriced, for sure!

[haulin rv]

Looks like someone did a lot, it's also got 3 torsion axles too.

From what I understand it was made by the same guy. Just marketed through another channel.


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[ETS]

Thoughts?


http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=3236381&

[h2oskibumz]

Thoughts?


http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=3236381&

I guess the old couple finally got rid of that if a KW dealer has it. Looked like it had been well cared for and supposedly had a new motor in it. We looked at this back in late May or early June. I think its several thousand high now... but then I'm a cheap bastard.

[Tosch88]

Its got a great motor in it if the miles are right.

H20 the market has improved for the sellers on used trucks. I use Ryder to get a good idea on pricing. Two years agoSA were being sold for $16k now the same type trucks are going for low to mid $20's and selling fast. There are deals to be had for the savy buyers though.

I think the truck above might be worth it but depends on how much repairs have been made already. If the truck has 1 million miles there had better be nice list of things that have been repaired or they better bring the price down. You can sink $10k intoit real quick.

[haulin rv]

It WAS for sale for just over 10k private party. May still have the en=mails from the owner.

[h2oskibumz]

It WAS for sale for just over 10k private party. May still have the en=mails from the owner.

I still have 2 emails from them... 1 w/ interior shots and 1 with exterior shots, but nothing with great details on repairs (that I could find anyway)

[LBZ]

Wichita Kenworth Inc (http://www.wichitakenworth.com/) <~ These guys typically are $10-$20 thousand over priced on class 8 trucks. They have four or five locations throughout KS. Nice people to talk to, but very very proud of what is on their lot.

[haulin rv]

They probably sold it to them out of desperation for 6k. They had it for sale for well over a year when I saw it. A little detailing and double you money plus some....not a bad deal!

[bayou hotshot]

M11 with a 10speed i like it tosch is right about the price of trucks going up i gave $12,500 for my 2005 freightliner in feb of 2009 with 678,000 miles i can get twice that today even with 200,000 more miles