Hey guys...

[TEXAS]

Hey fellas new to this site and thought I would add a couple of bad apples to the list.
Cocan Transport out of Moreno Valley CA moves cars on CD if he owes anyone money I know where he lives!!!
He did owe me money went by and I threatened his wife a little till she coughed up the cash that was fun!!!
Second F&F Express great guy Rick Powell out of Virginia owes me$1000 waiting to get a load that way some day so him and I can get acquainted if you follow my drift!!!

[Brisco]

......if he owes anyone money I know where he lives!!!
He did owe me money went by and I threatened his wife a little till she coughed up the cash that was fun!!!

........owes me$1000 waiting to get a load that way some day so him and I can get acquainted if you follow my drift!!!

One thing I need to point to you Texan is that Yes, we do appreciate the info about your experiences with a couple of "deadbeats" who have had trouble paying/not paying monies owed to you, but we DO NOT condone collection tactics such as this.

There are several legal and legitimate ways of collecting past due invoices, of which we all share and discuss within many areas of this board. If this is your way of collecting past due debts, that is information that does not need to be shared here, condoned by any member here, nor even discussed.

Try to keep your postings "Legit", OK.

[LBZ]

This post has been deleted out of the GAS thread.

While it is good to know names of brokers or carriers who do not meet payment obligations out in the open. Also realize print type formats can be misleading in multiple directions.

However threatening someones wife in person is NOT condoned, tolerated nor endorsed.

[TEXAS]

Sorry fellas didn't mean to be offensive there. I'll try not to get kicked off on my first post I had just seen some other guys posting stuff about "deadbeats". I will just leave my collection methods to myself and if anybody needs advice give me a ring. I was a repo man in my previous job so I know how to collect and when legal methods fail well you know........ Hey Briscoe I live about 10 min from you in Keller right by the Pilot on
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[Brisco]

Sorry fellas didn't mean to be offensive there. I'll try not to get kicked off on my first post I had just seen some other guys posting stuff about "deadbeats". I will just leave my collection methods to myself and if anybody needs advice give me a ring. I was a repo man in my previous job so I know how to collect and when legal methods fail well you know........ Hey Briscoe I live about 10 min from you in Keller right by the Pilot on
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Cool........

I know one member has gotten away with a statement saying "go beat the s**t out of 'em", but he's been around these boards forever and we know he didn't really mean it. Also, he didn't mention "threatening" anyones Wife either.

Welcome aboard, you should fit right in. :D

Just remember, this board is an "open" for all to see so we really need to be careful with what's said, know what I mean.

My brother lives up in Keller, over off of Heritage Trace Parkway & Beach. I'm looking for a house out there too. My shop is right there off 287 & Blue Mound Rd. We're not the only "Texans" here, trust me. Fill out your "Location" in your profile and then add it to the "Locator Map", OK.

Later!

[TEXAS]

That's exactly where I live! You shouldn't have a problem finding a house around there I've been there since 03 and theres always 2 or 3 for sale on my street alone. Some walmart trucker that was cheating on his wife who worked for jb hunt just moved out of a real nice one across the street (sounds white trash but not since they left) from me and let it go back to the bank!! cheap :) What kind of shop do you have? What do you do exactly? I've been looking for a place to work on my truck at and do you have a lift? I'll rephrase my previous "His wife and I played a game called what's your immigration status" :) and that seemed to do the trick. No threats :)

[h2oskibumz]

I was a repo man in my previous job

THAT'S certainly NOT going to win you any friends here.

I won't say MOST but MANY of us here think poorly of that profession... as being UNproffessional jerks who like to hold the cars hostage after the finance companies have released them to be sold at auction.

They'll screw over the transporters out of hundreds of dollars and countless hours of trying to get the cars picked up for auction... All in order to earn a couple of extra days worth of $20 storage fees for themselves.

I hope your the exception that proves the rule... but I'm NOT holding my breath.

[Microsoftsteve]

wow that's all i can say

[h2oskibumz]

Oh, and welcome to the board TX. Looking forward to you proving my initial judgement incorrect.

[Dorsey]

Yea, I pretty much hate repo people. Some are easy to get along with as it should be and others(most) are total pricks. I've sat at them places for 3 hours before. All I can say is they have that distintive repo attitude that only a repo company can have. Very rude cocky attitude.

[TEXAS]

Whoa fellas easy now. I was a Snap-On Tool distributor and since people nowadays don't to pay for anything and work hard for anything and all have that entitlement mentality. I was forced to making house calls and repoing people at work in order to get my tools and property back! Believe me I didn't like it either I just became very good at it and when you do that for 5 years and have guns and knives pulled on you. You become very direct and persuasive with people when it comes to money. I don't know anything about car repo guys other than most of them are or were Tow truck drivers and most of them are as you say" pricks, jerks" and I agree because that's ironic because I was always repoing those guys. LOL

[TEXAS]

I haul cars and freight now and believe me I know where ya'll are coming from. I sit and wait and lose out on cars all the time because of those guys! hey water ski bumz change your judgement yet? LOL

[Dorsey]

Me.......I wasn't directly talking about you. Repo came up and I felt like giving my opinion about them.

Welcome to the forum. It's been a rough start for you on the forum but you are welcome here. You just can't go around beating up on POS carriers/brokers wives unless their last name is Materas.:pj/k

[TEXAS]

Who's materas? Yeah I've been around a while just never joined the forum I'm just a sarcastic SOB so i should fit right in! thanks

[Dorsey]

Who's materas? Yeah I've been around a while just never joined the forum I'm just a sarcastic SOB so i should fit right in! thanks


Read the Guaranteed auto shippers thread right below this one. It's long but it will tell you all about him.

[Haul-A-Round]

Hey fellas new to this site and thought I would add a couple of bad apples to the list.
Cocan Transport out of Moreno Valley CA moves cars on CD if he owes anyone money I know where he lives!!!
He did owe me money went by and I threatened his wife a little till she coughed up the cash that was fun!!!
Second F&F Express great guy Rick Powell out of Virginia owes me$1000 waiting to get a load that way some day so him and I can get acquainted if you follow my drift!!!



threaten my wife , you'll think someone shoved a hungry pit bull up your ass and a dog treat down your throat when I get finished !
that is about as low as you can get to go after anymans wife, you don't have the balls to go after the man.
I do a lot of repo work on the side. it is a sorry business but I've yet to leave a repo on a bad note. be kind and understand that "but for the grace of God go I" . you could be in their shoes. kindness and compassion go further than an ass beating . you may end up shot with your attitude.

my guess is your useing your position to make up for short comings in your life.

[h2oskibumz]

Iwater ski bumz change your judgement yet? LOL

I will say I'm impressed that you recognize the molecular formula for water. Most people read that as "H-twenty".

Sorry for the rant, but when you mention "repo" and "threatening his wife" in the same breath, don't be surprised if you get less than a warm reception, especially around here where the vast majority have ZERO use for repo people...

Again, welcome to the forum. You've earned some credibility with me, but I'll withhold the full retraction for a bit...

[Microsoftsteve]

Agreed, this is good reading but seriously bragging about threatening someone's "wife" is nuts. I can't believe your judgement off so much that you'd think you would win friends by saying that. If you had spoke to the man to get your money back that's one thing. Bullying a woman is totally different. I do understand the need to get paid but that is not the way. I'm sure you'd loose your grits if someone came to collect a bill from your wife and threatened her.... As far as being a repo man I could care less, I can't stand them due to their attitudes of acting like they own someone's property. They have the classic attitude almost everyone here has dealt with, which is of a company man that act's like your taking money out of his pocket by collecting a paycheck. Try reading what you wrote before you post it. We all have enough problems dealing with sleazy brokers who don't care but really...the guys here are hard working honest guys. Just read Coop's wa to tx boat thread and you'll see the mentality of guys going the extra mile to keep what little credibility guys like us can get. Good luck on future post.

[ASTRO]

Hey Texas, you can stand with me. I was in collateral recovery for years before selling out and moving into freight and auto hauling. I didnt realize there was so much love for repossessors here. LOL

Sometimes we(repo people) loose touch with main stream society. Dealing with price cutting lenders, throat cutting-back stabbing fly by night competition and debtors that tell the same lies day in and day out, it kind of changes a man after awhile. No excuse by any means but it does. Compound that by working long hours while most are sleeping. The greater part of our social contact happens after dark in some poor souls front yard or at the lot releasing personal property to people that swear they had $500 cash or the wifes diamond ring in the console. Most people that are repo'd portray us as the bad guys, its somehow our fault and thats why fists, knives and guns come into play. Its a big cause for the attitude displayed by repossessors. We play a game every day we work to secure collateral. Hide and seek, human lie detector, stay alive if you can, get paid on a 30-90 day net. Sounds like fun huh? Wanna play? If we are successful then we won the game. Win enough and you get cocky. Human nature?

Im not defending the jerks and pricks. They are not true professionals. None the less repo is a neccessary evil.

On the other side of that coin, you have transporters that can not read "24 hour notice" "no keys" "roll backs only" "inop" or my favorite "please call to set up appointment" on the release or it never gets printed on there in the first place. It again is our fault the unit can not be picked up for the above mentioned reasons. The repo company is being unreasonable. A few do hold units in hopes of extra storage fees. That is not profesional. It can cost a repo company that account by doing so. I know this is an auto transport forum, but its funny that the same "love" about crappy transporters is on the repo forums.

Repossessors work for the lenders, the auctions work for the lenders, so the auctions and repo companies are working together by default. The transporters work for the auctions or brokers. Most headaches derive from lack of communications between auctions/brokers and the hired transporter. Ive witnessed it a thousand times. The lender sends a release, the auction calls to set pick up date, any pertinent info is exchanged, the date and pick up criteria is set. Then the auction/broker tells the transporter anything(or nothing) to get the unit picked up. Thats when the fun starts.

Just my opinion from my experience. Judge people individually. All auto transporters and repossessors are not scum. It is what it is and we are what we are. I made the jump to hauling/transporting for my own reasons. I enjoy this forum and all the banter that goes on. For the record: I am an EX-REPOSSESSOR. Dont want to get burned on the internet stake ya know.

[Dorsey]

Yea not all repo companies are pricks. Just 80-90 percent of them! I have a repo guy that lives down the street from me that I bs with all the time that's actually a nice repo guy. Go figure! Usually when I'm at a repo yard they make me feel like Im the POS that got my car repo'd. What's the point in making an appointment or calling 24hrs in advance when someone is at the office all day?All the bs is just tactics to score a couple more bucks. Some companies will get the car out to you for free,some will charge, and then there is the ones where they aren't going to lift a finger to get that car off their property. What about the ones where they put stupid crap on the side of their trucks like "hooking for a living"? Nothing says trash better than that!

[ASTRO]

I know the pain on both sides. I transported about 25% of my repos to the auction and always had to pick up a few from the competition in my area. They tried to make it difficult at best. A few calls to the auctions and the lenders(competition's paycheck signer) cleared up these problematic pricks. Knowing who to call and what to say goes a long way toward a favorable solution.

Maybe I could give some advise or be a strong arm for the members here that do pick up repos? I have nothing to loose by telling the nasty little secrets and tactics.

[TEXAS]

Wow it's amazing all the different angles everyone has on this subject. Especially Haularound quite amuzing way to earn business! Just chew out potential customers out in the open so everyone can see! Anyways I did not threaten this guys wife like you think. I did speak with the husband on the phone who lied to me and said that wasn't his wife or his apartment but I knew better. Seeing that she was eastern european and barely spoke english I threatened to call immigration on her and that was enough to persuade her to cough up the cash. Hell I even rode with her to the bank!

[TEXAS]

Thanks Astro!

[LBZ]

Seeing that she was eastern european and barely spoke english I threatened to call immigration on her and that was enough to persuade her to cough up the cash. Hell I even rode with her to the bank!

...& that is why I said print type stuff can be taken in multiple directions. Don't think anyone would have a problem with that sort of deal at all.

But when you say "I threatened a guys wife" in a blank slate sort of way most picture the worst & automatically think physical harm or abuse...& that was my first thought as well.

As for the repo subject, have only had one hang me up more than a few minutes. Usually avoid them unless I have spare time & you can cancel them if you have to, most brokers probably know when to expect that call anyway.

The last one I did was out of a facility in Bloomington, IL & the guy drug out a cord & battery charger 'cause the car was dead. Had a jump box in my truck, but his stuff was closer & he hung around 'til I got the thing out of the snow drift surrounding it on ice.

[Brisco]

Wow it's amazing all the different angles everyone has on this subject. Especially Haularound quite amuzing way to earn business! Just chew out potential customers out in the open so everyone can see! Anyways I did not threaten this guys wife like you think.

Don't worry about HAR, he's just one of "those" types. :D

He'll grow on ya and next week you 2 will be in agreement with each other against some other member who has a difference of opinion in some thread somewhere.

This thread too will die out, and we'll have another 3-4 page discussion on something else here in a couple of days. ;)

[TEXAS]

I could care less about repo guys myself. I got tired of doing it myself and its been 2 yrs since and I don't miss it a bit. When I was selling tools I had 3 wrecking/recovery companies on my route and I always found it ironic that I was always repoing most those guys they never would pay me! Now try and get your stuff back from those guys!!

[TEXAS]

Hey brisco you never reponded to my questions? whenever you have time I'm interested in your shop?

[Brisco]

Hey brisco you never reponded to my questions? whenever you have time I'm interested in your shop?

Sorry about that...

Here's the lowdown on it:

http://www.autoexpeditor.com/showthread.php?t=464

Still just goofin off though........

I'll get to running this thing as a "Car Dealership" eventually. :D

[TEXAS]

That's cool don't know of any places in that area selling those types off cars classics etc.... Good luck! should do fine there clean building. Why didn't you want to open that shop in Arlington? LOL Other than theres 5000 car lots and half your inventory would be missing the next day the rent would be cheap! LOL

[cosgo]

I dont think haularound was trying to earn your business when he made his comment, but can you blame him for saying what he said (and mighty funny by the way!). you said you threatened a guys wife... OK, nice. Good thing it wasnt mine as she wouldve shot you (after she dragged you INTO our house) and you'd be leaving in a rubber bag.

[pmmjarrett]

I dont think haularound was trying to earn your business when he made his comment, but can you blame him for saying what he said (and mighty funny by the way!). you said you threatened a guys wife... OK, nice. Good thing it wasnt mine as she wouldve shot you (after she dragged you INTO our house) and you'd be leaving in a rubber bag.

Mine wouldn't have dragged you into the house..... We're allowed to shoot through the door.

[haulin rv]

Mine would have just been as nice to you as she is to me and you would have run away:rolleyes:

[cosgo]

Roflmao!!!

[oregon]

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Ya gotta take everything you read with a grain of salt. Texas and I BS everyday, he is one of the funniest guys you will ever meet. The stories he has from everday dealings are hillarious. This forum has lots of great info and friendly people with open minds, which makes it enjoyable.:)

[pmmjarrett]

Mine would have just been as nice to you as she is to me and you would have run away:rolleyes:

Awsum HAHAHAHA

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[h2oskibumz]

Im not defending the jerks and pricks. They are not true professionals. None the less repo is a neccessary evil.

On the other side of that coin, you have transporters that can not read "24 hour notice" "no keys" "roll backs only" "inop" or my favorite "please call to set up appointment" on the release or it never gets printed on there in the first place. It again is our fault the unit can not be picked up for the above mentioned reasons. The repo company is being unreasonable. A few do hold units in hopes of extra storage fees. That is not profesional. It can cost a repo company that account by doing so. I know this is an auto transport forum, but its funny that the same "love" about crappy transporters is on the repo forums.


It sure SOUNDS like your defending them... Tell you what, all you repo guys on the forum pool your money and send me the $2300 and change that Total Asset Recovery Services (formerly of Columbia, MO) owes me for the work I did for them transporting cars back to their marshalling yard when I first started out, along with all the wasted miles and hours that I've invested trying to pick up repos (I'll have to figure up the bill...) and I'll sing the praises of Collateral Recovery Agents from the rooftops as if Jesus Himself got into the repo business.

What's that? Yeah, I thought so.

I had a long post with MULTIPLE examples where we HAD followed the repo yard's rules TO THE LETTER and were still denied access to the cars or where we had been told "big trucks get in here all the time" only to find out that was a bald faced lie and we had to call tow trucks to drag them out to the street (and pay for the service in spite of the Repo yard having 2 rollbacks and 3 stealthy pickups with wheel lifts ON :eek: SITE...)

Fortunately for everyone I dropped Internet connectivity when I made the post and it evaporated. So here's the condensed version... (yeah, this one is condensed!)

Defend them or not, I don't give a rats ass we no longer do any repos to speak of, and that won't change. If business gets so bad I have to start hauling repos again, I'll go work at Wal-Mart!

They were a small percentage of our business (<10%) and (when we used to do them) they created a HUGE percentage of the "problem pickups" that we see (probably >75%). Ad to those numbers that fully 25% of the time you follow their rules, jump through hoops to be there on THEIR schedule, etc, etc, and yet still FULLY 25% (and probably more like 33%) you get there and for one reason or another... no joy. When we used to do repos out of STL on my 3 car trailer I used to always book 4. I almost always came home with 3 and RARELY had to reschedule one for the next day.

They are simply not worth the hassles to me. I have more business than we can handle, and work off Central mostly to fill holes. Look at the percentages above and you don't have to be a math wiz to figure it out. If you like dry runs, dry humps, and frustration, then I suppose working with repo yards might make a great specialty transport...

When we book something from a broker like United Road, ATC, or Road Warriors that we know does a large amount of Repo>auction transports, its our first question... Is that a lease return or a repo? If its a repo, unless they are coming out of a repo yard we can count on cooperation from we pass.

By the way, there are exceptions Ghost Rider in Mexico, MO or Arch Recovery in St. Louis are PROFESSIONAL (and predictable) and we never used to worry about picking up from them (well except for the one time Mike at Arch told me a Grand Prix was there and ready to go and I got there and it had NO TIRES OR WHEELS!!!) But being a CLASS ACT, Mike looked around at his paperwork and said "Wait, here's a Cobalt going the same place in the next couple of days... let me try to get a release and maybe you can take it." 20 minutes a phone call couple of faxes later he hands me the keys to the Cobalt.

Your right they are NOT ALL unprofessional jerks... like me!:D

[Haul-A-Round]

Wow it's amazing all the different angles everyone has on this subject. Especially Haularound quite amuzing way to earn business! Just chew out potential customers out in the open so everyone can see! Anyways I did not threaten this guys wife like you think. I did speak with the husband on the phone who lied to me and said that wasn't his wife or his apartment but I knew better. Seeing that she was eastern european and barely spoke english I threatened to call immigration on her and that was enough to persuade her to cough up the cash. Hell I even rode with her to the bank!

hey thanks for the pm, not a threat that I posted in this thread for everyone to see , it's a guarantee. you don't mess with my wife or daughters.

could care less who buys what or if they even buy, at least you know what your dealing with when you buy from me. everyone on this board that has bought from me will tell you the same thing. I'm open , honest and to the point !
the whole world is a potential customer , 95% of them will never buy.

my family comes first in everyway, they do not do without but you collection tactics are pathetic.

[ASTRO]

Defending? No. Sharing my opinion and experience? Yes. I will never defend any action unless its something I did or didnt do myself.

Brothers, let me tell ya. Ive seen the worst of the worst. I know all the nasty stuff that the transporters go through. You're preaching to the choir. Dont forget I too had to retrieve units from competing repo companies for auction transport. The longer they kept me at bay was time wasted not picking up the next repo/transport and the turds knew that.

When there is a turd in the proverbial punch bowl you got to be tough and drink from the other side until you find out who did it. And when you do... rub their nose in it.

I found the glitch in their armor through their clients(lenders). I then proceeded to "rub their noses in it".

H20, sorry for the financial loss caused by some of the turds. Can we take up a collection for ya? LOL!

[h2oskibumz]

H20, sorry for the financial loss caused by some of the turds. Can we take up a collection for ya? LOL!

Aw, hell... Its only money LOL.

I respect that you made a personal, proffessional, and financial decision to get out of that line of work. Let the young arrogant bastards with no qualificaqtions for the military or law enforcement yet need to feel that "I'm superior" have a go at the repo game.

I simply made a personal, proffessional, and financial decision to choose to pass on that part of the business. Too many of them are jack offs when your ont he same side, I would hate to see them if they actually wanted your stuff!!

That reminds me, I need to make a truck payment... LOL!

[LBZ]

I made a really long post this morning about Repo guys & as I was glancing back across it the power went out not 5 seconds before I hit submit. Which one of you had anything to do with it??? :D It was actually favorable...

Anyway very long story short was dealing with a new(to me) broker & of course somehow ended up with a repo unit. The broker told me about it, but decided to hang on to it & just get it over with.

Metrogistics was the broker & Kat in dispatch did make the call for me for the 24 hour notice requirement letting them know I would be there for p/u. I got ahold of the recovery yard, verified the address times etc. but my GPS nor google maps would locate them & the guy at the yard was no help. Called Metro while still searching thinking the recovery yard was playing games to try gain a few more days of storage.

Kat found the right spelling for the address & a few minutes later the guy at the yard called me back in a much more talkative mood. Found out later that he works over night 'til 6 a.m. & tries to sleep a few hours in the morning. I was calling between 9:15-9:45, so no wonder why he could give a flip less about me.

This recovery yard was near an Adesa & he offered to meet me there w/the vehicle as it is easier FOR ME to load it there & of course took him up on it. Pretty cool guy to talk to as well.

There was a lot of stress before hand based on assuming the worst, but in the end now that I know how this yard works, would not hesitate what so ever pulling more cars out of there & Metrogistics really put some work in on this too.

I realize this instance isn't the norm, but definitely needed to be said.