View Full Version : What do u think about Appalachian trailers
lubee84
01-31-2012, 08:18 PM
hello guys. Thinking of buying this 4 car hauler double deck from a friend of mine, good price. anybody heard anything about them. i dont see many 4 car trailers of them on the roads usually 2-3 car trailers,But the price is perfect so i dont known???
http://i30.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0201/9d/6777a11f630eaa3c1b4e211feda5c69d.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)
Motownfire
01-31-2012, 09:44 PM
Wow, those trailers must be freakin' awesome, it enables you to pull four vehicles with a single rear wheel truck.
redline
01-31-2012, 09:44 PM
is that an f250?
Haul-A-Round
02-01-2012, 01:22 AM
real pieces of junk,yes it can be pulled with a 3/4 ton because it weighs nothing. becuase it weighs nothing and is built of extremly lite material it cracks,breaks and ccomes apart.don't waist your time or money buying something that will bankrupt you in 6 months.
haulin rv
02-01-2012, 06:33 AM
Well the almighty one has spoken so it must be junk.
Haul-A-Round
02-01-2012, 07:10 AM
man, what is your problem and why do you insist on ridding my ass ? he ask for an opinion, I gave him information bassed on what we see and fix around here. if you have a problem with me then you need to call or pm,keep your bull shit off the board. you and your allmighty can kiss my ass. I don't guve a damn if your a mod or not.
I would be concerned with it being an Appalachian + a stack trailer.
Everything I have seen on their wedges is fairly shoddy/rough. and now that stack them on top of each other... I pass.
haulin rv
02-01-2012, 08:05 AM
Wow somebody got their feathers ruffled. Its my opinion while you have provided some good info that most of the time your view is purely one sided and negative.
That particular trailer is a new design for them, you've already had one in your shop?
I don't see how he's getting one from his buddy already... that was a quick fail.
I don't think they've made those trailers for over a year yet.
Haul-A-Round
02-01-2012, 08:28 AM
you damn right I got mad,everything I say you have to nail me. you don't like it then don't read my post. I am not being cocky,arrogant or anything else. is my stuff top notch,hell yes. my customers do 100% of my advertising. the products speak for them selves. not one time have you seen me run in a thread and holler buy mine,I don't push my products although I Paid to support this board. have not sold 1 trailer here.
I help where I can
have guys from this board that calll every week needing help,I help if I can,free of charge.
someone ask an opinion and I give them the truth,I do not have time to be nice,candy coat or blow smoke up your ass about it.
all of those trailers we have seen have the same problems. new design or not I would not buy it,they have a long history of week frames and problems along with lack of warranty.
sclyde
02-01-2012, 04:30 PM
Appalachian sold to Kaufman a couple years ago. They improved things some. They have always done everything the cheapest way possible.
I still wouldn't touch it.
The last few Appy wedges I've seen were falling apart and heavy as ... you get the point.
haulin rv
02-01-2012, 07:15 PM
Heck they don't really make a wedge anymore.
Kaufman does not own them either. They are a family member that spun of Kaufman.
sclyde
02-02-2012, 07:50 AM
I am personally friends with the Kaufman's. The owner of Kaufman Trailers is cousins with the one who started Appalachian. Larry sold to Rob a couple years ago, though they wont admit that to anyone. I agree I definitely wouldn't touch it.
sclyde
02-02-2012, 01:55 PM
The son of the man who started Appalachian told me that they have had major problems with the necks breaking off on their wedges whenever someone
would run with too much weight on top. I also know that Larry stored all the steel outside and then they just painted over the rust. The first thing Rob did after buying them out was to build a new building to store it in and have the guys sandblast everything and primer and paint it. I also know Larry told me that he was constantly in court, from customers suing him because of trailer problems and that he was so experienced with handling the court cases that he didn't even need a lawyer anymore.
cosgo
02-02-2012, 04:27 PM
The son of the man who started Appalachian told me that they have had major problems with the necks breaking off on their wedges whenever someone
would run with too much weight on top. I also know that Larry stored all the steel outside and then they just painted over the rust. The first thing Rob did after buying them out was to build a new building to store it in and have the guys sandblast everything and primer and paint it. I also know Larry told me that he was constantly in court, from customers suing him because of trailer problems and that he was so experienced with handling the court cases that he didn't even need a lawyer anymore.
Thats comforting......
Haul-A-Round
02-02-2012, 09:13 PM
The son of the man who started Appalachian told me that they have had major problems with the necks breaking off on their wedges whenever someone
would run with too much weight on top. I also know that Larry stored all the steel outside and then they just painted over the rust. The first thing Rob did after buying them out was to build a new building to store it in and have the guys sandblast everything and primer and paint it. I also know Larry told me that he was constantly in court, from customers suing him because of trailer problems and that he was so experienced with handling the court cases that he didn't even need a lawyer anymore.
this is what I was eluding to but not flat out saying. several lawyers have used me as a witness in court casses against them. we fix a lot of this junk but make the customers sign a liability waver where we can not be held liable for anything.
there are many many fly by night,less than quality companies out there that only want your money.very few care if you come back to buy another one from them.
But those guys use box tubing, how could that be wrong? ;) Not sure how ALL their trailers are designed, but the one wedge I saw up close had angle iron or C channel welded together to make a box. Not a structural engineer, but it made me say WTH is this?
Haul-A-Round
02-03-2012, 07:26 AM
welcome to my nightmare !
wait till you see a 40' gooseneck."low pro" roll in here to have the neck fixed. the whole trailer from front to back is 2 pieces of 6" channel iron welded together to form a tube. neck was the same thing. boxed the frame every 10' from front to back,3" angle iron crossmembers spaced 36". yep, it was a prize pig
The best response to a question on these forums still holds true...
"I wouldn't touch it with YOUR numbers" - h2oskibumz (aka "I <3 Pink Ron")
lubee84
02-03-2012, 05:45 PM
Hi guys, sorry i didnt get a chance to come here,but thanks to all you replys,so as far as i understand appalachian is junk,the think is price was good only 5000 for 4 car hauler....So i still looking for a 3 car trailer my budget is up to 6000 2 or 3 car trailer..Has to be 2 axles cause i only have class c license,any good deals arround chicago?? By the way what do u think about take 3 trailers? EZ Haul trailers and Quality trailers are they good or junk? I love those Infinity trailers but they are pretty expensive for mu budget and plus since i just started in this business...
Once again thanks for the replys
lubee84
02-03-2012, 05:46 PM
what do u think about this trailer
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/2832040414.html
redline
02-03-2012, 06:11 PM
if you are serious about this business you need a class a cdl
lubee84
02-03-2012, 06:40 PM
if you are serious about this business you need a class a cdl
I will get my CDL later,i am serious about business,but i wanne start with something,so i am startring with class C i have Ford Dually f350 7.3L and looking for a trailer for now...In the future of course i will get CDL,but i start from small going to bigger... thx
cosgo
02-03-2012, 07:15 PM
what do u think about this trailer
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/2832040414.html
Its new enough that for that price I would go look at it. Its got the tandem duals which is a plus. Go measure how wide it is. It looks like its been in chicago its whole life judging by the surface rust. Give the tubes a good look, if they look bloated at all, just turn it down. Those things will rust from the inside out. Also, they will collect water, and in winter it freezes and thats where you 'll get the bloating in the tubes. If those look good, (and all the regular stuff you'd look at when buying a trailer) then make the guy an offer. Sounds like he's nogotiable.
smr500
02-03-2012, 07:21 PM
Those trailers are fairly heavy for a wedge. Keep that in mind since you don't have a cdl. They are built right down the road from where I just moved from, I know them well. Rust from the inside out like cosgo said
Motownfire
02-03-2012, 07:28 PM
7000 lbs axles ??? Not 10k ???
lubee84
02-03-2012, 07:48 PM
7000 lbs axles ??? Not 10k ???
yes i talked to him over the phone he said trailer sticker said 14000GVWR so thats why i wanne go look at this trailer cause he has class c also i asked him.He said he ownes dodge ram 3500 mega cab and his truck and trailer weights 13500.. thats what he told me
Motownfire
02-03-2012, 08:15 PM
Just go take the test and get your CDL. I did the test with my own truck and trailer, it took about 2 hours total.
lubee84
02-03-2012, 08:23 PM
Just go take the test and get your CDL. I did the test with my own truck and trailer, it took about 2 hours total.
well the thing is i dont have trailer yet i am looking for one, but even when i will get trailer i dont think i can go for cdl test with my f350 dually and trailer. i need to see if i can use trailer that has more 10000 gvwr in IL for cdl.
Motownfire
02-03-2012, 09:18 PM
I took my CDL test using a Dodge 3500 and my old 44' car enclosed car hauler with a GVWR of 18,000 LBS.
Ask a buddy to borrow a trailer or find a rental place and rent one for a few hours. Your commercial hauling life will be a lot easier and smoother with your CDL. I'm not trying to give you a hard time about it, just shooting you straight and trying to help ya out.
redline
02-03-2012, 10:09 PM
a lot of states like California require a cdl if your trailers gwvr is over 10k or over 28 feet long. Meaning you will get shut down and rig towed. So you may want to check with dot in your state to make sure that's not the case wherever you plan on running. A 14k trailer can only have 8-9k on it before its overloaded. An average car weighs 4k today. Good luck.
h2oskibumz
02-04-2012, 07:01 AM
I owned a 1998 Easy Haul. It was a good one with no rust or bloated tubes. The torsion axles make it pull very nice empty or full. Actually pulls better empty than my current spring trailer but that shouldn't be a consideration since you want to pull it empty as little as possible...
Mine was a true 14k GVW trailer (see below, this one is NOT really 14k) with only single wheels. 48' long with 3' pull outs on the rear just like this one will have. That trailer weighed in at 5500 lbs. THIS one will be a bit heavier because of the tandem duals, and IF it is 53' long (the ad does not give a length) that will ad several hundred.
If this trailer is stickered at 14k lbs GVW then it has been restickered or ordered with the 14k rating. There is no such thing as a dual wheel 7k axle, these are 10k I assure you. That might actually be a good thing... You could pull it for 2 weeks until you discover for YOURSELF that it is very difficult to stay under 26k (since you won't listen to everyone who has told you that) and then you could order a replacement with the PROPER GVW on in (Call Beatrice and give them the VIN and make sure you can GET a replacement and correct VIN tag BEFORE you make an offer.)
lubee84
02-04-2012, 11:48 AM
Can somebody please tell me what is a difference between a wdge trailer and gooseneck trailer?
http://i32.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0204/20/fc03c017dc739088ed0169bb6cb36d20.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)
http://i32.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0204/ad/0331ac18ac177f2ac7813e38c68ca1ad.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)
They are both same the only difference i see that if u have wedge and u have inop vehicles it will be much easier to unload them, u just roal down? or i am wrong?
redline
02-04-2012, 11:58 AM
More usable space.
smr500
02-04-2012, 12:21 PM
The wedge term refers to the shape. With a wedge you can load over your pick up bed, with a typical gooseneck you cannot. It equates to 1 car.
Dorsey
02-04-2012, 12:26 PM
Out of the 2 trailers you posted the wedge is a shorter trailer with as much usable space as the goose neck you posted. Although the gooseneck you would get better fuel mileage.
m.r.cars
02-04-2012, 03:38 PM
Ask a buddy to borrow a trailer or find a rental place and rent one for a few hours. Your commercial hauling life will be a lot easier and smoother with your CDL. I'm not trying to give you a hard time about it, just shooting you straight and trying to help ya out.
Lots of states, especially in the NE will not let you take the test unless you have copleted a course at a truck driving school. That means several thousands of $$ plus the thousands of $$ you loose by not being on the road while attending the school.
Mitch
M.R.Cars
redline
02-04-2012, 04:21 PM
the $$ you gain by being able to load 4 cars more then makes up for it
lubee84
02-04-2012, 06:19 PM
i know that if u have a cdl and at least a 4 car trailer money is good,but i am going slow step by step in this business.. I been hauling one car at a time on a one car trailer for about 2 month (and i still was making money of course not big but i worked for myself not 8-4!!!!) So i sold my 1 car trailer and looking for something bigger 2 or 3 car trailer.But since i just dont have a CDL (YET) i wanne stay under 26K. I have me 99 Ford DRW f350 7.3L with 113K miles(i am a second owner) and looking for at least 2 car hauler. I known if i buy 2 car trailer pretty sure i dont have to worry about overweight. Not with a 3 car like 50f kaufman wedge trailers on that one i need to check every vehicle i load to stay legal!... So yes in a future i will get my CDL and 4 or 5 or even more car hauler. But i start from small going to bigger. Plus i am a Legal carrier us dot, authority,insuarance cargo everything i have. CD account(even have a ushit account but havent took any load yet from there,and i dont even check them out a lot maybe once a week)....
So which trailer is better from one that i put above Gooseneck or wedge?
Gooseneck because of the fuel saver?
PS.Thanks for all the replys and hope u understand me...
pballer
02-04-2012, 07:33 PM
technically, they are both goosenecks..... if you are wanting to stay under you could get a 2 car gooseneck. can you make money? probably, but how much? who knows. there are alot of used ones floating around for 4-6k used.
If you're looking for a 2 car, I would go with the gooseneck. No need to have a car up in the wind when your only hauling 2.
smr500
02-05-2012, 10:07 AM
Will make zero money with two...hard enough with 3.
lubee84
02-05-2012, 10:29 PM
Guys thanks for all the replys... this is probably my last question to you. I have an option to buy 3 car hauler but its a tri axles trailer with a GVWR 18000 but this guy told me it was an 14K GVWR before...I can fax some kind of paper work and they will down grade to 14000GVWR.So since i have class C license will this work for me? As far if i ever got pulled over by a dot officer? My GVWR on my truck is 11200.(sticker said) so if i downgrade to 14K trailer i should be good? Or dot officer can check my axles and since its a 3 axles(6 single tires) he can say something is not right?
Please help if u can. Thanks a lot, hope this is my last question.
redline
02-06-2012, 12:45 AM
You need to contact the dot in your state. Some states require a CDl if the trailer is rated over 10k so if you are in one of those states no.
Only if the combination GVWR is over 26k redline.
cosgo
02-06-2012, 07:09 AM
Only if the combination GVWR is over 26k redline.
Depends where you are. Your regular license does you no good in Illinois once the trailer is 10,000lbs or more. Time for CDL here. I can't speak of other states.
lubee84
02-06-2012, 07:09 AM
I dont think that IL is one of that state that require CDL if trailer is rated over 10K. i need to check,but i am pretty sure not. SO if my truck rated at 11200 GVWR and i get 3 axle trailer rated at 14000GVWR i should be good,as far if a dot officer will pull me over.
lubee84
02-06-2012, 07:45 AM
Your regular license does you no good in Illinois once the trailer is 10,000lbs or more. Time for CDL here. I can't speak of other states...
well i am screwed... thismeans even if i need to haul 2 car with a 2 car trailer i still need cdl,cause 2 car trailers is rated at 14K, well i guess its a time to get cdl asap. because i can only haul one car. not 2 or 3
cosgo
02-06-2012, 10:25 AM
I'm 100% sure of this. Go to any DMV and grab the CDL book. It's right there in the first section. By the way, if your GVWR on your truck and trailer equal over 26000, you can get a class A CDL without air brakes in your dually. It's no big deal.
redline
02-06-2012, 11:38 AM
California is very clear on this too you need a class a class a if the trailer is over 10k. 26k or not.
Motownfire
02-06-2012, 01:19 PM
Lots of states, especially in the NE will not let you take the test unless you have copleted a course at a truck driving school. That means several thousands of $$ plus the thousands of $$ you loose by not being on the road while attending the school.
Mitch
M.R.Cars
One more good reason to stay far far away from the Northeast.
lubee84
02-06-2012, 03:48 PM
by the way,i forget to ask. Is it legal when people have a 3 axle trailer and they take off one axle(2 tires off) so its not more a 3 axle,now its 2 axle trailer with total of 4 tires. Is it legal? and why they do this? Just to save on tollways?
Dorsey
02-06-2012, 07:05 PM
It saves on Tolls, fuel, tires, parts, maintenance. As far as being legal I wouldn't think it would be illegal as long as you aren't over on the axles. A lot of the cargo trailer haulers do this.
Dorsey
02-06-2012, 07:08 PM
If you go to putting three cars on you'll be overweight though. Atleast that's what I've been told by a couple of guys that did that.
lubee84
02-07-2012, 09:34 AM
If you go to putting three cars on you'll be overweight though. Atleast that's what I've been told by a couple of guys that did that.
I dont known i see everybody who took off one axle has a 3 cars on trailer. Do u known which axle i can take off the ones that is close to truck(front one) or middle one or rear one or it doesnt make any difference.
Dorsey
02-07-2012, 10:14 AM
Im not 100% correct. You can I guess if they are 3 SMALL cars. I'd say the front axle as that would put less weight on your trailer axles and more on your drive axle. Are you getting your CDL?
Dorsey
02-07-2012, 10:15 AM
I'm sure there is a couple of people on here that run under 26k that can better answer your question.
I dont known i see everybody who took off one axle has a 3 cars on trailer. Do u known which axle i can take off the ones that is close to truck(front one) or middle one or rear one or it doesnt make any difference.
You should take off the center axle. That way you will have a spread axle set up just like the big truck guys pulling spread axle reefers & step decks. Will balance the weight much better end to end.
You should take off the center axle. That way you will have a spread axle set up just like the big truck guys pulling spread axle reefers & step decks. Will balance the weight much better end to end.
FWIW, I am only screwing with you on the above.
However, while you are more than welcome to ask questions. You are setting your self up to FAIL big time doing all the half ass stuff you are thinking. The problem I have with it is that you will move cheap crap on your way down & only live up to the stereo typical hack truck driver.
EVERYTHING is here for you to do things RIGHT. If you do not have to money today to make the investment or money to run on, you should continue to save up & wait util you can do things right. You will only have one chance at this. Proper equipment, CDL etc. Not saying this to be rude, you just need to hear it until it sinks in.
BRANTLEYTRANSPORT
02-07-2012, 08:32 PM
LBZ is correct. Can you make money like this? SURE....BUT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU WOULD HAUL MY VEHICLE WITH A TRAILER MISSING TIRES
You need to get a class A CDL...as stated by previous members above this will save you time and headaches down the road.
If you cannot afford to buy a wedge or a 2 car you should not have sold your single. There are 100's of wedges out there for sale, many under $6k.
This forum is here to help people in this business. Im glad you feel like you can ask questions here. You need to remember that the guys giving you answers do this for a living. We are not out to give you the wrong answers so you will fail. However if you dont listen to the experience everyone is offering you will most likely fail.
lubee84
02-07-2012, 09:15 PM
My question was. why people who owned a 3 axle trailer take off one axle and if its legal to do that? The only reason why people do that is to save on tollways from my understanding, now question is if it is legal to do that? I have an option to buy 2010 kaufman wedge trailer 50 ft. its a 3 axle
BRANTLEYTRANSPORT
02-07-2012, 09:29 PM
Leave it on or go buy a dual axle trailer. Missing tires will be like having a sign on your truck that says pull me over!
lubee84
02-07-2012, 09:33 PM
OK thanks for the reply, that was my main question why people do that.
redline
02-07-2012, 09:49 PM
I would never buy another 3 axle trailer. Whatever you have to do to get a dual axle oil bath you should do it. But as cosgo stated you need a class a for that trailer in your state so you can't even pull it legally right now.
I pay a metric buttload in tolls. I wouldn't do it by choice. I've chained up an axle when more tires blew than I had spares for. But only that one leg of the trip and replaced the tires immediately after getting back home. But I only had one vehicle on. The spread axle idea works great on the interstate.... But the moment you turn, don't be surprised when you peel a tire off its rim.
The trailer came with 3 axles... keep 3 under it. If you want less axles, get a trailer with less axles. I hear Sun Country makes a decent single ;)
mysticstang
02-19-2012, 05:45 PM
Up to just a couple of years ago appalachian was owned by one of the kaufman's..... It isn't now. Quality trailers is just a kaufman trailer sold by dealers.... Quality trailer wedge trailers will sometimes be built at Kaufman in nc.... Both quality and appalachian are made very close to where i live and I have been to both factories several times.
m.r.cars
02-19-2012, 06:45 PM
FWIW, I am only screwing with you on the above.
However, while you are more than welcome to ask questions. You are setting your self up to FAIL big time doing all the half ass stuff you are thinking. The problem I have with it is that you will move cheap crap on your way down & only live up to the stereo typical hack truck driver.
EVERYTHING is here for you to do things RIGHT. If you do not have to money today to make the investment or money to run on, you should continue to save up & wait util you can do things right. You will only have one chance at this. Proper equipment, CDL etc. Not saying this to be rude, you just need to hear it until it sinks in.
I'm so tired of so many know it alls on this board telling every newbe that if they don't work their way, they will fail.
This is a big country and different regions have different dynamics. i would never tell guy in Nebraska how to set up his business, why do all you mid west guys think you know about the whole country.
Where I am, you can make more $$ running a 3 car under 26k than you can a 4 car. That may seem unbelievable to you, but when I'm dropping my second car at 9:00AM, they guy who had to load and unload 4 cars is waiting at Copart for his 4th car after spending the night in their lot.
We run Sun Country trailers with 2 7k axles, all but one came with 3 from the factory. We removed the forward one since removing the middle would make turning in urban areas impossible. Our tolls are $60-$90 per day, with 3 axles it woiuld be $90-$120. If you do go with 2 axles with singles, I recomend torsion axles so if a tire blows you can still drive to a tire shop or to somewhere safe to change the tire.
My usolicited advice to anyone starting out is to figure out where you want to run and what is the best setup for your business model. Talk to drivers in your area to learn what you can, I still do this because the only thing I know for sure is that I don't know everything.
And sometimes you can take more than 3 cars and stay under 26K
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mysticstang
02-20-2012, 05:08 PM
I'm so tired of so many know it alls on this board telling every newbe that if they don't work their way, they will fail.
This is a big country and different regions have different dynamics. i would never tell guy in Nebraska how to set up his business, why do all you mid west guys think you know about the whole country.
Where I am, you can make more $$ running a 3 car under 26k than you can a 4 car. That may seem unbelievable to you, but when I'm dropping my second car at 9:00AM, they guy who had to load and unload 4 cars is waiting at Copart for his 4th car after spending the night in their lot.
We run Sun Country trailers with 2 7k axles, all but one came with 3 from the factory. We removed the forward one since removing the middle would make turning in urban areas impossible. Our tolls are $60-$90 per day, with 3 axles it woiuld be $90-$120. If you do go with 2 axles with singles, I recomend torsion axles so if a tire blows you can still drive to a tire shop or to somewhere safe to change the tire.
My usolicited advice to anyone starting out is to figure out where you want to run and what is the best setup for your business model. Talk to drivers in your area to learn what you can, I still do this because the only thing I know for sure is that I don't know everything.
And sometimes you can take more than 3 cars and stay under 26K
1404 1405
Waiting to load or unload can happen with any size trailer not just a 4+ car hauler.
I have done $5500-$6000 round trip to FL from Ohio before... with a wedge. So yes, you can make good money with a wedge but IMO its not worth the problems that you might have to try to stay under needing a CDL. Its easier and not that much more to just get the CDL and go on down the road. I personally have a CDL so no worries if you have a 1500 pickup and 2 cars... Its just easier IMO
cat45
02-20-2012, 06:20 PM
What does that trailer weigh empty?
redline
02-20-2012, 11:32 PM
Just to be clear so you run no cdl no, ifta, a 3 axle trailer with an axle removed being pulled by a van and 3 cars make more then 4?
I'm so tired of so many know it alls on this board telling every newbe that if they don't work their way, they will fail.
This is a big country and different regions have different dynamics. i would never tell guy in Nebraska how to set up his business, why do all you mid west guys think you know about the whole country.
Where I am, you can make more $$ running a 3 car under 26k than you can a 4 car. That may seem unbelievable to you, but when I'm dropping my second car at 9:00AM, they guy who had to load and unload 4 cars is waiting at Copart for his 4th car after spending the night in their lot.
We run Sun Country trailers with 2 7k axles, all but one came with 3 from the factory. We removed the forward one since removing the middle would make turning in urban areas impossible. Our tolls are $60-$90 per day, with 3 axles it woiuld be $90-$120. If you do go with 2 axles with singles, I recomend torsion axles so if a tire blows you can still drive to a tire shop or to somewhere safe to change the tire.
My usolicited advice to anyone starting out is to figure out where you want to run and what is the best setup for your business model. Talk to drivers in your area to learn what you can, I still do this because the only thing I know for sure is that I don't know everything.
And sometimes you can take more than 3 cars and stay under 26K
The last I knew this board was NOT set up to tell people how to side step or skirt the law. Stripping crap down to avoid IFTA & apportioned plates, skipping cdl's to get drivers cheaper are typically not methods that will work. You have mentioned several times on this board that you have been over 26k. If you are willing to do that & risk the fines, so be it, but do not advise others to do the same & only tell part of the story.
pballer
02-21-2012, 08:08 PM
I dont run a cdl, currently running a 3 axle getting ready to change to 2. I don't run IFTA on this truck and I probably won't. Although my situation is different since I won't be over 26k, not even a chance of it. I do not run cars though....My semi is a different story, IFTA, cdl driver, etc, etc.....never scaled it but I bet it isn't much over 34k loaded most of the time. I have run the non cdl setup through Michigan and down to Georgia and all over midwest and over to the east coast as well. Never had a problem.
haulin rv
02-22-2012, 04:18 PM
This has sure got way off track from a question about a trailer.
But I can say I ran non cdl under 26k for 260,000 until I was forced to quit. I was inspected MANY times. Its not illegal, immoral, or wrong. It can be a challenge keeping the weights in check but it can be done. And with the right (light) truck and trailer it could have been easier than it was for me. I am a firm believer in find what works for YOU not what everyone or anyone tells you to do.
m.r.cars
02-23-2012, 06:35 AM
Waiting to load or unload can happen with any size trailer not just a 4+ car hauler.
I have done $5500-$6000 round trip to FL from Ohio before... with a wedge. So yes, you can make good money with a wedge but IMO its not worth the problems that you might have to try to stay under needing a CDL. Its easier and not that much more to just get the CDL and go on down the road. I personally have a CDL so no worries if you have a 1500 pickup and 2 cars... Its just easier IMO
You are just illustrating my point about different regions having different dynamics. When you are running 200-300 miles between pick up and drop areas, you need to complete all of your drops and all of your pick ups before 4:30 pm if you are doing Salvage. The truck in the bottom photo runs Nashville area to NYC area and would benifit from being a 4 car, but the other ones would not. In fact, I was thinking of adding a truck to go between Long Island and CT and a 2 car would be more eficient than a 3 car.
Mitch
M.R.Cars
m.r.cars
02-23-2012, 06:38 AM
What does that trailer weigh empty?
thos are 2 trailers, the top one is a 53', the bottom a 48'. Both weigh around 6k
m.r.cars
02-23-2012, 06:50 AM
The last I knew this board was NOT set up to tell people how to side step or skirt the law. Stripping crap down to avoid IFTA & apportioned plates, skipping cdl's to get drivers cheaper are typically not methods that will work. You have mentioned several times on this board that you have been over 26k. If you are willing to do that & risk the fines, so be it, but do not advise others to do the same & only tell part of the story.
You must be referring to someone else as none of my trucks ever run overweight. We have passed 9 level one inspections in the last year. Running legally under 26k is not skirting or sidestepping any law, it is comlying with the law. I thought the site was set up as a place for hot Shot car carriers to gather, chat and be respected by each other.
As for advising anyone to do anything, I don't. I was criticising those who tell eeryone that it's their way or no highway.
Respect
Mitch
lubee84
02-23-2012, 11:56 AM
Hello
Since it allready went far from original post.. My question is do you stop at all weight Stations if they are open or you just drive away. why i asked this question(dont think i stop at all of them if they are open) Because my Dad He is a Truck driver with a CDL he talled me when he was working OTR, lots pf truckers didnt stop at weight stations. He even personally knows 2 drivers who been working otr with a cdl for about 4 years now and they never ever stopped at any weight station? i known its illegal but can cops chase you? well of course they can,but i never heard any story that cops was chasing you because u didnt stop to weight.
Dorsey
02-23-2012, 01:33 PM
Haha......Thats ILLEGAL!!!!! If you want to go around use PREPASS. That post pretty much sums your character up!
lubee84
02-23-2012, 03:23 PM
Haha......Thats ILLEGAL!!!!! If you want to go around use PREPASS. That post pretty much sums your character up!
is it free to get prepass? on their web-site i havent found any price info?
cosgo
02-23-2012, 04:33 PM
About $16-17/month/truck
h2oskibumz
02-23-2012, 08:55 PM
$17 per month per truck. $13.50 if you are an OOIDA Member. If you don't know what OOIDA is Google it! Basically if you use Prepass and are an OOIDA member, the Prepass savings in a year ($42) pays your dues for the year ($45) Their magazine might be worth the other $3...
lubee84
02-28-2012, 02:48 PM
Hello everyone i have one quick question. i am planning to go to Lincoln Ne over next weeokend visit some old buddies. My question is i will try to find some cars to haul there and back here. My question is if i can park my truck and trailer at Truck Stop for 2 days for weekend(There is Flyuing J close to Lincoln) Did u guys ever done it? Should i talk to the store manager to let him known if thats ok? or i can just park there and leave for the weekend it should be fine? i never done it before thats why i am asking?
pballer
02-28-2012, 07:27 PM
always check with them. i would even try and get something in writing just in case it gets towed by another manager
cosgo
02-28-2012, 07:38 PM
They may not even know its there!! Id ask first anyway..
TrailerStory
04-22-2012, 12:41 AM
hello guys. Thinking of buying this 4 car hauler double deck from a friend of mine, good price. anybody heard anything about them. i dont see many 4 car trailers of them on the roads usually 2-3 car trailers,But the price is perfect so i dont known???
http://i30.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0201/9d/6777a11f630eaa3c1b4e211feda5c69d.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)
This trailer company is owned by the same company as Kaufman Trailers and Trailer Baron. If you can live with a one year warranty, it may be a good choice. I would recommend researching Kaufman before purchasing. I hope this helps.
lubee84
04-26-2012, 07:03 PM
Hi... have one question.. one of my family memeber wanne start hauling cars, he allready bought a truck. Trailer will be soon. My question is can he work under my authority? MY company name US Dot And MC? Should i some how notify FMCSA that there will be one more truck? or i dont need to do anything, he just need to have all sighns on side of his truck? And what will be better as for insurance? ad him and truck to my policy or he needs to find his own insurance. THX for help
haulin rv
04-26-2012, 08:56 PM
This trailer company is owned by the same company as Kaufman Trailers and Trailer Baron. If you can live with a one year warranty, it may be a good choice. I would recommend researching Kaufman before purchasing. I hope this helps.
Interesting...You are in the same town as Kaufman. So do tell, what's your story?
Hi... have one question.. one of my family memeber wanne start hauling cars, he allready bought a truck. Trailer will be soon. My question is can he work under my authority? MY company name US Dot And MC? Should i some how notify FMCSA that there will be one more truck? or i dont need to do anything, he just need to have all sighns on side of his truck? And what will be better as for insurance? ad him and truck to my policy or he needs to find his own insurance. THX for help
One word... "LEASE", now go study & research leasing.
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